Agenda and minutes

Traffic and Road Safety Advisory Panel - Wednesday 3 March 2004 7.30 pm

Venue: Committee Rooms 1 & 2, Harrow Civic Centre

Contact: Ben Jones, Committee Administrator  Tel: 020 8424 1883 E-mail:  ben.jones@harrow.gov.uk

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PART I - RECOMMENDATIONS

RECOMMENDATION 1 - Edgware Controlled Parking Zone Review - Consultation Results

Minutes:

Your Panel received a report of the Interim Head of Environment and Transportation which considered the results of consultation reviewing the Edgware Controlled Parking Zone (CPZ) and made appropriate recommendations.

 

Prior to discussing the report, the Panel received deputations from local residents.  Dr Driscoll was unable to attend the meeting, and a statement from him was circulated and read out by the Chair.  The statement was in support of the existing restrictions in Montgomery Rd and requested that no changes were made to the current operational hours of the CPZ.

 

The second deputation was from a resident of Gresham Road supporting the proposed revisions to the operational hours of the CPZ.  The deputee stated that he had been asked to address the Panel by several local residents who felt that although the area clearly needed a CPZ, not all roads required the same operational hours which were in force at the present time.  He stated that the operational hours of the CPZ should be reduced in Gresham Road, Churchill Road and Montgomery Road.  He refuted the points made in the previous deputee’s statement, and suggested that displaced parking would not be an issue in Gresham Road, Churchill Road and Montgomery Road.  He noted that there were split zones over the borough boundary in Barnet, put the parking problems these roads faced were different to those faced in Edgware.  The operational hours of the CPZ was causing problems to some residents who required regular visits from carers and family members.  He stated that support for the current operational hours of the CPZ was based on unsupported claims and, excluding commuters, there was little demand for parking in Gresham Road, Churchill Road and Montgomery Road.

 

In response to a question from a Member, the deputee stated that a one hour operational time discouraged commuters sufficiently, but still allowed residents to continue a normal life.  He suggested that different operational hours were suitable for Mead Road and Handel way as they faced a different problem.

 

The Chair reminded the meeting that the Panel had agreed to recommend to the Portfolio Holder the implementation of the Edgware CPZ in June 2002.  As part of the decision, a six to twelve months timetable for the review of the CPZ after implementation had been agreed, which begun in October 2003 and was now reported to the Panel.

 

In response to a question from a Member, an officer explained that the roads in the area had different problems, requiring different solutions.  However, he did not think having two different zones would cause excessive confusion, as the zones would operate in two different sets of roads.  Following further questions, officers stated that there were strict regulations covering the signing of zones, although they undertook to make the signage as clear as possible while maintaining consistency with other zones.

 

The Chair stated that the review of the Edgware CPZ had been difficult and complex.  Response to the consultation had been high, and the proposed changes corresponded with the requests  ...  view the full minutes text for item

RECOMMENDATION 2 - Harrow on the Hill Local Safety Scheme - Request for Review of Yellow Line Waiting Restrictions and 20 mph Zone

Minutes:

Your Panel received the report of the Interim Head of Environment and Transport which outlined a review of the yellow line waiting restrictions in High Street and the proposed 20 mph zone for the Hill.  The Chair commented that the report proposed the extension of the yellow line on West Street and that the implementation of the 20 mph zone be brought forward.

 

An Officer informed the meeting that the proposed extension to the yellow line outside 38?40 High Street arose from a request from a Ward Councillor.  Officers were careful not to remove too much parking away from traders’ clients or to reduce parking to such an extent that it encouraged the speed of cars to increase.  He added that the scheme had the support of the Harrow on the Hill Forum.

 

There had been requests for implementation of the proposed 20 mph zone to be brought forward from 2007 to 2005-06.  Officers were concerned that the physical measures required for the implementation of a 20 mph zone would not be accepted by local residents, although the Harrow on the Hill Forum were keen advocates of the scheme.

 

A Ward Councillor, present to speak on this item, commented that 20 mph zone was of great importance for the safety and conservation of the Hill.  Too much traffic was already using the Hill, especially along High Street, West Street and Middle Road.  He suggested that Government policy was to introduce 20 mph zones near schools, and considering the number of school children using the Hill, the Hill was a perfect location.

 

A Member commented that he had witnessed buses struggling to negotiate the Hill on several occasions and suggested that consultation should begin now to ensure the scheme is ready for implementation by 2007.  He added that there appeared to be a gulf between the physical works the Harrow on the Hill Forum felt was required for a 20 mph zone and what officers thought was required.  A Member suggested that attempts could be made to create a ‘slow atmosphere’ on the Hill.

 

The Harrow Public Transport Users’ Group representative commented that he had been in contact with the bus company that operated the 258 and they informed him that although they had faced some problems in the area, it was no worse that the rest of the borough.  He added that buses had a very important role to play on the Hill, especially for the pupils of St Dominic’s.

 

In response to a question from a Member, officers commented that 20 mph zones needed to be self-enforcing, and therefore consist of physical measures.  They commented that it would be a very challenging design issue to keep speeds down to 20 mph while ensuring residents were happy.

 

During discussion of the 20 mph scheme, officers agreed that the scheme would take at least two years to complete, due to the need for comprehensive consultation and thorough planning.  An officer suggested that starting this scheme earlier would delay other 20  ...  view the full minutes text for item

RECOMMENDATION 3 - Controlled Parking Zones/Resident Parking Schemes - Annual Review and Related Petitions

Minutes:

Your Panel received the report of the Interim Head of Environment and Transportation which presented the annual review of Controlled Parking Zones/Resident Parking Schemes and related petitions.  It included assessments of the existing zones, requests for new zones including petitions received in the last 12 months and a reference from the Wealdstone Regeneration Advisory Panel.

 

Prior to discussing the report, the Panel received a deputation from Gareth Thomas MP, Member of Parliament for Harrow West, on parking in North Harrow.  The deputee stated that he was speaking on behalf of a variety of constituents and paid tribute to the work of Headstone Residents’ Association.  He noted the negative impact the closure of Safeways had on the area, suggesting that improved parking facilities could help the area.  He also suggested that North Harrow should be the next area for the New Harrow Project.  He stated that the businesses on Pinner Road were not benefiting from the parking bays as the cost was prohibitive.

 

He urged the Panel to reconsider it’s decision not to recommend the installation of parking bays on Station Road.  Traders and residents were keen for their installation to help revive North Harrow in the wake of the closure of Safeways.  He also informed the Panel that residents of Southfield Park were concerned over the speed of traffic using their road.  Residents of West Harrow had also expressed their concerns over parking, especially in the area surrounding West Harrow Station.  In response to a question from a Member, the deputee agreed that discussions over North Harrow with Transport for London (TfL) were necessary.

 

Following comments from a Member, the depute stated that the installation of a cycle lane helped fund parking bays in Pinner Road.  However there were issues regarding the cycle lane in Station Road which needed to be looked at in the context of the Safeways closure.  He reiterated that he felt the ‘Clean and Green’ aspect of the New Harrow Project would benefit the area greatly.  A Member stated that he had recently walked round North Harrow and had sympathy with the residents.  He suggested that parking bays might be financed through a Section 106 agreement with a future developer of the Safeways site.  Officers were requested to compile a report on the cost of installation of parking bays on Station Road.

 

The Harrow Public Transport Users’ Group representative commented that facilities for buses needed improvement in North Harrow and suggested that solving North Harrow’s problems required joined up thinking.  Officers undertook, in conjunction with TfL, to investigate the cycle lane in North Harrow.

 

The Chair commented that the report had changed little since the Panel had considered it last year.  He noted that the report stated that the Harrow town centre CPZ would not be extended to Sundays.  In response to comments from a Member, Officers confirmed that the Stanmore College area was included in the review of the Stanmore CPZ.

 

Commenting on the petition received from Holwell Place, officers stated that residents had asked  ...  view the full minutes text for item

PART II - MINUTES

32.

Attendance by Reserve Members

To note the attendance at this meeting of any duly appointed Reserve Members.

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  To note the attendance at this meeting of the following duly appointed Reserve Members:-

 

Ordinary Member

 

Reserve Member

 

Councillor Anne Whitehead

Councillor Arnold

Councillor Mrs Kinnear

Councillor Ray

Councillor Seymour

Councillor Anjana Patel

33.

Declarations of Interest

To receive declarations of interest (if any) from Members of the Committee arising from business to be transacted at this meeting.

Minutes:

RESOLVED: To note that the following interests were declared:

 

Agenda Item

 

Member

Nature of Interest

Item 10(b)

Councillor Ray

The Member indicated that he had a prejudical interest as he was a resident of the road to be discussed.  The member left the room and took no part in the debate on this item.

 

Item 9(a)

Councillor Harriss  (Present to speak on item 9(a))

The Member declared a personal interest in as a resident of the area.  He remained present and took part in the debate.

34.

Arrangement of Agenda

To consider whether any of the items listed on the agenda should be considered with the press and public excluded on the grounds that it is thought likely, in view of the nature of the business to be transacted, that there would be disclosure of confidential information in breach of an obligation of confidence or of exempt information as defined in the Local Government (Access to Information) Act 1985.

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  That all items be considered with the press and public present.

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35.

Minutes

That the minutes of the meeting held on 3 December 2003, having been circulated, be taken as read and signed as a correct record.

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  That the minutes of the meeting held on 3 December 2003, having been circulated, be taken as read and signed as a correct record.

36.

Public Questions

To receive questions (if any) from local residents or organisations under the provisions of Committee Procedure Rule 15 (Part 4B of the Constitution).

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  To note that there were no public questions to be received at this meeting under the provisions of Advisory Panel and Consultative Forum Procedure Rule 15 (Part 4E of the Constitution).

37.

Petitions

To receive petitions (if any) submitted by members of the public/Councillors under the provisions of Committee Procedure Rule 13 (Part 4B of the Constitution).

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  To note the receipt of the following petition:

 

·         Re:  Objections Regarding Parking Restrictions in Greenford Road, Cavendish Avenue, Rosebank and Fernbank.  -  From businesses in the local area.

38.

Deputations

To receive deputations (if any) under the provisions of Committee Procedure Rule 14 (Part 4B of the Constitution).

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  To note the receipt of the following deputations:

 

(1)               Re – Edgware Controlled Parking Review – Consultation Results:  From a local resident

(See Recommendation 1)

 

(2)               Re – Edgware Controlled Parking Review – Consultation Results:  From a local resident

(See Recommendation 1)

 

(3)               Re – Edgware Controlled Parking Review – Consultation Results:  From a local resident

(This deputation was withdrawn at the meeting)

 

(4)               Re – Controlled Parking Zones/Resident Parking Schemes  -  Annual Review and Related Petitions:  From Gareth Thomas M.P.

(See Recommendation 3)

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39.

Reference from Development Control Committee Meeting of 14 January 2004

Minutes:

Your Panel received a reference from the Development Control Committee asking the Panel to consider the proposed relocation of a bus stop as part of development works at Edgware Hospital.  Officers commented that the road was wide enough to allow parking and two way traffic.  In response to comments from a Member, officers confirmed that Barnet had liaised with bus operators.

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40.

Reference from Development Control Committee Meeting of 11 February 2004

Minutes:

Your Panel received a reference from the Development Control Committee which requested the Panel consider poor visibility for drivers when approaching the roundabout on Uxbridge Road.  Officers commented that the roundabout had a good safety record, but there had been several reports of damage only accidents.  Consultants were currently compiling a report on the area, which would be ready in a few weeks.

 

A Ward Member, present to speak on this item, commented that a short-term solution was needed at the roundabout to prevent further accidents.  He commented that the fence on Uxbridge Road had been knocked down several times by vehicles.  He suggested that potentially a flyover was the long-term solution, but in the short-term, revisions needed to be made to the roundabout island to promote road safety in the area.

 

A Member commented that traffic from the east usually approached the roundabout slowly and from the west traffic usually approached the roundabout at speed.  Officers confirmed that the comments of the Panel would be considered within the consultant’s study.

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41.

Reference from Wealdstone Regeneration Advisory Panel Meeting of 15 January 2004

Minutes:

This was considered under Recommendation 3.

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42.

Edgware Controlled Parking Zone Review - Consultation Results

Minutes:

(See Recommendation 1).

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43.

Harrow on the Hill Local Safety Scheme - Request for Review of Yellow Line Waiting Restrictions and 20 mph Zone

Minutes:

(See Recommendation 2).

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44.

Controlled Parking Zones/Resident Parking Schemes - Annual Review and Related Petitions

Minutes:

(See Recommendation 3).

45.

Items Placed on the Agenda at the Request of a Member of the Panel:

The following items have been placed on the agenda at the request of Councillor John Nickolay and under the provisions of Committee Procedure Rule 8 (I)  (Part 4B of the Constitution):

 

(a)  Traffic Control on Kenton Park Avenue and Kenton Park Road, and the possibility of a filter traffic light to turn right from Kenton Road on to Kenton Lane.

 

(b)  One Way Traffic at the ‘Close’

Minutes:

(i)         Traffic Control on Kenton Park Avenue and Kenton Park Road, and the possibility of a filter traffic light to turn right from Kenton Road on to Kenton Lane

 

            The Chair reminded the meeting that the banned right turn was an experimental traffic order and noted that the scheme had many knock on effects.

 

            A Ward Councillor, present to speak on this item, commented that many residents are unhappy with the increased traffic flow on residential roads.  Residents were being disturbed at night by vehicles traversing speed bumps and buses were also having problems.  A Ward Councillor, who was also a Panel Member, commented that he had received a lot of complaints from residents related to the Kenton Road/Kenton Lane junction.  He noted that the banned right turn had improved east-west traffic flow, although some of the other consequences were unwanted.  He suggested that two lanes and a right filter phase could be introduced at the junction.

 

            A Member voiced his sympathy for residents and commented that there was under capacity in the roads leading to the junction.  He suggested that officers needed to collaborate with Brent officers to find an appropriate solution to the problems at this junction.

 

            Officers informed the meeting that the experimental traffic order expired on 26 April, so officers needed to consider options before then.  Officers added that they had funding for traffic calming on Kenton Park Road and Kenton Gardens.

 

(ii)         One Way Traffic at ‘The Close’

 

            Officers informed the meeting that they had received a request for one-way traffic at ‘The Close’.  Instead, it was proposed to install a ‘No Entry’ point which was intended to have a similar effect to a one way system, but would reduce costs and would have minimum impact on the environment.