Agenda and minutes

(Special) [Virtual Meeting], Traffic and Road Safety Advisory Panel - Monday 10 August 2020 6.00 pm

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Recording

The recording of this meeting was available by following the link below:

https://www.harrow.gov.uk/virtualmeeting

75.

Welcome

Minutes:

On behalf of the Panel, the Chair welcomed Councillor Anjana Patel to the Panel and thanked Councillor Baxter, a former Member of the Panel, for his contribution to the work of the Panel.

76.

Attendance by Reserve Members

To note the attendance at this meeting of any duly appointed Reserve Members.

 

Reserve Members may attend meetings:-

 

(i)                 to take the place of an ordinary Member for whom they are a reserve;

(ii)               where the ordinary Member will be absent for the whole of the meeting; and

(iii)             the meeting notes at the start of the meeting at the item ‘Reserves’ that the Reserve Member is or will be attending as a reserve;

(iv)              if a Reserve Member whose intention to attend has been noted arrives after the commencement of the meeting, then that Reserve Member can only act as a Member from the start of the next item of business on the agenda after his/her arrival.

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  To note that there were no Reserve Members in attendance.

77.

Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 85 KB

To receive declarations of disclosable pecuniary or non pecuniary interests, arising from business to be transacted at this meeting, from:

 

(a)               all Members of the Panel;

(b)               all other Members present.

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  To note that 

 

(1)          the Declarations of Interests published in advance of the meeting on the Council’s website were taken as read and the following further declarations made at the meeting by Councillors under this item in relation to agenda item 5 and during consideration of the same item, Harrow Street Spaces Programme – 2020/21, be also noted:

 

Councillor Marilyn Ashton: (Non-Pecuniary Interest) – Local Authority appointed Governor of Park High School

Councillor James Lee: (Non-Pecuniary Interest) – Lived in Canons Park

Councillor Vina Mithani: (Non-Pecuniary Interest) – Ward Councillor for Kenton West where Kenton Park Shopping Parade was situated 

Councillor Paul Osborn: (Non-Pecuniary Interest) – Lived on Vaughan Road, part of the West Harrow Low Traffic Neighbourhood Scheme.

Councillor Varsha Parmar: (Non-Pecuniary Interest) – Marlborough Ward Councillor where schemes were being proposed

 

(2)          Members and Advisers who had declared interests remained in the virtual meeting whilst the matters were considered and voted upon.

RESOLVED ITEMS

78.

Appointment of Vice-Chair and Non-Voting Advisers

To defer the appointment of Vice Chair and Non-Voting Advisers to the next ordinary meeting of the Panel. The Panel are requested to consider the  suspension of Executive Procedure Rule 35.4 to allow the following Advisers appointed in 2019/20 to participate in the meeting pending their formal appointment at the next ordinary meeting of the Panel:

 

           Mr J Leach

-            London Living Streets

           Mr N Long

-            Harrow Association of Disabled People

           Dr A Shah

-            Harrow Cyclists

           Mr A Wood

-            Harrow Public Transport Users' Association

 

 


Minutes:

RESOLVED:  To defer the appointment of Vice Chair and Non-Voting Advisers to the next ordinary meeting of the Panel and to suspend Executive Procedure Rule 35.4 to allow the following Advisers appointed in 2019/20 to participate in the meeting pending their formal appointment at the next ordinary meeting of the Panel:

 

Mr J Leach

-       London Living Streets

Mr N Long

-       Harrow Association of Disabled People

Dr A Shah

-       Harrow Cyclists

Mr A Wood

-       Harrow Public Transport Users' Association

 

79.

Deputations

To receive deputations (if any) under the provisions of Executive Procedure Rules 43.2 and 48 (Part 4D of the Constitution).

Minutes:

RESOLVED:  That, in accordance with Executive Procedure Rules 43.2and  48, the following deputations be received in respect of agenda item 5 – Harrow Street Spaces Programme – 2020/21:

 

1.             

 

Title of Deputation

Residents concerned about proposed Low Traffic Neighbourhoods Green Lane Area and Dennis Lane Area

 

Reason for Deputation

[12 Signatories]

There is sufficient local unhappiness with Schemes LTN?05 and LTN-08 per harrowstreetspaces.commonplace.is

The schemes should not go ahead.  The Deputation wants to argue why those Schemes should not proceed. 

 

2.             

 

Title of Deputation

Residents of Stanmore Hall

 

Reason for Deputation

[32 Signatories]

To object to the closure of Dennis Lane, Stanmore.

 

 

3.              

 

Title of Deputation

Honeypot Lane – Barrier

 

Reason for Deputation

[14 Signatories]

As a shopkeeper greatly affected adversely by the barrier and we are in great danger of losing our businesses.

 

 

4.               

 

Title of Deputation

Objection to Low Traffic Neighbourhood LTN-02 Pinner View, Headstone Scheme GC021238-R1 

 

Reason for Deputation

[12 Signatories]

Scheme will adversely impact on residents, residents do not want the changes, residents have not seen any evidence of benefits or alternatives options.

 

 

5.               

 

Title of Deputation

 

The Hillview Community against the imposition of School Streets Grimsdyke Primary School Scheme SS-01 

Reason for Deputation

[18 Signatories]

We, the undersigned, representing over 70 residents in the above community feel strongly that the above scheme is badly conceived and instead of achieving its aims, it will provide greater congestion and pollution, increased traffic flows and lead to issues of road safety.    

 

Full details in relation to the deputations, including questions asked and answers given, were set out in the audio recording and referenced, in brief, at Minute 79 and at Appendix 1 to these minutes.  The recording of this item/minute can be found by following the link below:

https://www.harrow.gov.uk/virtualmeeting

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80.

Harrow Street Spaces Programme - 2020/21 pdf icon PDF 504 KB

Report of the Corporate Director of Community.

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Minutes:

Prior to the consideration of the report of the Corporate Director of Community, the Panel heard from the five deputees present at the meeting (Minute 78 also refers), full details of which were available by following the link at Minute 78 and listening to the audio recording.

 

In summary, the deputees urged the Panel to reject the schemes that they were speaking on and that they were vehemently opposed to proposals because of the adverse impact they would have on their communities.  Their submissions are also set out at Appendix 1 to these minutes.

 

The deputees responded to questions from Members of the Panel and stated that:

 

-               the proposed schemes for Dennis Lane and Green Lane areas were counter productive and would not increase the use of public transport or walking;

 

-               the pedestrian barriers in the Honeypot Lane area had not encouraged people to walk to their local shops and there was evidence that the foot fall had dropped considerably which was crippling businesses in the area.  The situation had been exacerbated by the lack of parking, including the provision of parking for people with disabilities;

 

-               the proposals for the Pinner View area (Scheme LTN-02 at revised Appendix A to the report referred) would lead to traffic congestion in the surrounding roads.  A Member cited the proposals previously rejected by the Panel for the Goodwill to All junction and asked officers how the two proposals were related.  An officer responded that there were plans to consult on the Goodwill to All junction which had had to be delayed due to Covid-19.  Another Panel Member stated that in light of the officer response it was best that both the schemes were held in abeyance and was of the view that the response given appeared to give an impression of silo working mentality;

 

-               the School Streets Grimsdyke Primary School Scheme SS-01 was poor and would increase traffic flows and congestion and did not interact with other schemes in the area.  The consultation was poor and a 20mph zone was required in Hillview if the scheme were to proceed.  An officer replied that funding was only available for SS-01 but that he would ascertain if a 20mph could be incorporated but he was not certain that the parking issue (Grimsdyke Road) could be resolved.  

 

The Chair thanked the deputees for their presentations.

 

Prior to the consideration of the report of the Corporate Director of Community, the Panel also heard from a number of back-benching Members who, in brief, were opposed to the implementation of a number of schemes, as follows:

 

-               Green Lane/Dennis Lane – the proposals were unrealistic and partial closures would impact on the surrounding area and would result in traffic gridlocks.  Both Green Lane and Dennis Lane had steep gradients and would not encourage cycling.  The problems would be exacerbated when children returned to schools in September 2020.   The existing width restriction at Dennis Lane would need to be removed and were the proposed scheme  ...  view the full minutes text for item 80.

Appendix 1 [+ Deputation 1 - Proposed Road Closures - Schemes LTN-05 and LTN-08] pdf icon PDF 41 KB

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